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Introduction
Somehow it seemed appropriate that the Moderator had a sore throat so that, as he said
himself, even if he had wanted to be strident, he didnt have the volume to be
anything but gentle. Much the same could be said of the five hours of debate which
followed, reflecting a tolerance and gentleness of spirit which surprised many.
Introducing the debate on behalf of the Mission Council,
Rosalind
Goodfellow, the Convener of the Human Sexuality Task Group reminded Assembly of
the story so far, beginning with a request from Westminster College for clarification on
the question of whether a self-declared homosexual could be accepted for training.
Discussion and worship material had been circulated to all local churches and councils and
some 29% of churches (513), representing 42% of the total membership of the URC had
responded, representing all shades of opinion.
Why had only 29% responded? Perhaps it was because the subject was too hard to handle;
perhaps it was taboo for elderly folk; perhaps the issue had been perceived as too
complex. Whatever the reasons, a number of issues had been raised. First and foremost had been
the concern for the unity of the Church, with the majority being quite clear that the URC
should not split on the issue. It was this concern for unity which had led to the first of
the resolutions to be debated. Another issue had been the question of the authority of the
Bible and whether the passages referring to sexuality should be interpreted liberally or
literally. The replies also showed the tension between the various councils of the church
what if local churches disagreed with the District or if Assembly made a decision
with which many in the Church disagreed? This had led to the drafting of the second
resolution. As to the ordination of self-confessed practising homosexuals to the ministry
or eldership, or their acceptance as members, the replies showed that a practising
homosexual could be accepted as a member in 178 churches, as a leader in 62 and as a
minister in 48.
On the basis of the results, Mission Council had to face up to the question of the form
any resolution should take. If the Church were to decide that a practising homosexual
could never be a minister, existing ministers would have to leave their posts or
their partners and others might be subjected to explicit and intrusive questioning over
their private lives. Some individuals and churches would have left the URC. If, on the
other hand, the Church were to decide knowingly to ordain homosexuals, some ministers,
members and churches would leave and there might be an influx of homosexuals into the
Church, changing its character and leading to the fear that local churches would be under
pressure to accept the ministry of homosexuals. Hence the form of the third resolution,
which allowed those who were otherwise suitable to apply for training and protected
existing ministers who had proved themselves faithful ministers of the gospel.
Resolution 17
| The Motion |
Assembly recognises:
a) the seriousness of the issues of human sexuality and
their implications or acceptable behaviour and lifestyles among Christians; and
b) the lack of agreement in the responses submitted to
General Assembly by local churches, District Councils and Provincial Synods concerning
aspects of the contemporary debate on human sexuality and the teaching and application of
scripture; and therefore
1. believes that these disagreements, though serious, must
not be allowed to injure the unity and peace of the United Reformed Church;
2. encourages local churches, District Councils and
Provincial Synods to apply with wisdom and sensitivity the pastoral practice and
discipline set out in the Basis of Union and Structure of the United Reformed Church, in a
way which respects the rights of personal conviction and which does not override
conscientious decisions in these matters nor use such decisions as a reason for breaking
the fellowship of the United Reformed Church;
3. calls on those who exercise pastoral care of members,
elders and ministers in the Church to seek ways of ensuring that all those who experience
rejection because of their convictions in these matters are sustained within the
fellowship of the Church held together by Jesus Christ. |
Introducing the debate on the first resolution (see above), Mrs Goodfellow stressed
once again the great concern for unity over an issue on which views were divided, together
with the resolutions emphasis on the sensitive application of the Churchs
rules.
First speaker from the floor was Bruce Stuart (Wimbledon), who felt that the church should be moving more quickly. Social divisions were
always complex and their causes were often unspoken and intimate like past
prejudices against black people. The division between homosexuals and heterosexuals was a
cultural division like that between Jews and Gentiles in New Testament times. He regretted
that the Church had not long ago declared that we were one in Christ. Margaret Taylor (Northants)
was
encouraged by those who had travelled together to seek the mind of Christ during the
process even while disagreeing and saddened by those who did not find it
possible to love those with whom they disagreed. The current resolutions would give us
more time to come to an understanding and to learn to hold differing views while still
loving one another.
For the Revd Janet Webber (Roding), the
present resolutions were the best we could do at the moment. She was, she said, one of few
members of Assembly who was able to be public about her personal sexuality she was
a lesbian in a long standing relationship which had sustained her ministry over many
years. This was not a discussion about them but about us. People
sometimes talked as if there no problem because there arent any in our
church. The truth was that no one knew how many homosexuals there were within the
Church because most felt compelled to hide. Most people had not discussed or thought
sufficiently about the issue, so we needed to keep talking until we were comfortable with
it. God, she argued, treated us as individuals not as members of a group and that was how
we should treat each other. To write into our constitution a denial of one group would be
a denial of our practice of determining whether an individual was called by God. Anne Jeffers (C&N London) spoke of the
extraordinary pluralism of the New Testament Church. Jesus had come and turned the society
of his day upside down: those who had been rejected were accepted and included. She was
very proud of the inclusive church and this was another important issue on which we must
be both inclusive and forward looking. Rachel Poolman (Thames North) felt that just
as people had different genders and colours, so there were different sexualities. She
longed for unity, but unity did not come without cost and risk along the way. The debate
was about very deep things in our personality, so it should not surprise us that we
sometimes felt uncomfortable. She longed for the day when we moved beyond discomfort and
did not look at people who stepped up to speak, wondering which they are.
Simon Copley (E Wales) was
the first to speak against the resolution, pointing out that when the apostles discussed
the admission of gentiles to the Church, the question was not simply who was to be
included but also the basis of that inclusion. They had not been above imposing
requirements about sexual morality and idolatry. He also wondered whether the poor
response from local churches had perhaps happened because people did not wish to appear
intolerant. On the other hand
David Coleman (N Wales),
felt that the saddest thing was the 2/3 of churches who had not discussed the issue. The
process of discussion had been one of the most valuable parts of his ministry and after
those meetings he could fully support the resolutions, not only on his own behalf but on
behalf of the churches he served. Sheila Fairbairn (Northumberland) admitted to
being part of a small church which had not replied. She had, however been surprised when
individual elders had told her that they did not think it was an issue, they were more
concerned with poverty in the local community. She found that they accepted people as they
were and sought unity with them as they were. Peter Westlake (Southend) argued that
the debate was about unity, so that biblical quotes which might allow us to condemn
homosexuals were not relevant. There was a danger of looking at one sin as determining
eligibility for ordination, whereas if we were looking at one sin we have to look at all
the subjects that divide us. Sarah King (Devon East) held the power of the
local church very dear and that it was clear that homosexual ministry would be appropriate
in some local contexts. Clare Hardwick (Southampton) reported
from her discussions with young people a realisation that no matter what decision was
taken, some people would be hurt. For that reason we ought not to be afraid to make a
decision. John Hardaker, (St Albans) wondered whether
churches had not replied because they had not been asked for resolutions. What was needed
was a clearer lead as to what local churches were being asked to do. He was disappointed
that the views of 42% of our members were apparently being dismissed. When 83% said the
same thing we ought to take it very seriously, especially if we believed that God spoke to
us both through the scriptures and through seeking the mind of Christ in church meetings.
Simon Ellis (Sussex East) supported
the resolution but wondered if the process had been flawed, with confusion over whether to
take votes or not. He also felt that many had confused sexuality and practice by raising
the question of celibate homosexuals, when the issue was the ordination of self-declared practising
homosexuals. Daphne Beale (Leicestershire) felt
that many of the arguments heard seemed to be very similar to those deployed against women
in the ministry in the past. She also felt that there was a danger of saying that only
unity matters, not what the church should be doing.
Replying to the debate, Rosalind Goodfellow
wondered whether it was possible to move more quickly when it was clear that minds were
only changed through discussion. Janet Webber had made it clear that we were not dealing
with something new but with the acknowledged fact that there were already men and
women in homosexual relationships within the ministry.
The Task Group, like some speakers, had been saddened at level of response and it would
take to heart any criticisms made of the process but some complexity had been inevitable
once it had been decided that it was not possible to ask for a simple yes/no answer on the
issue.
| Resolution 17 was overwhelmingly carried, with no more
than one or two votes against. |
Resolution 18
| The Motion |
Assembly, noting the requests made in a number of
responses from local churches, District Councils and Provincial Synods for further time
and space to reflect on these matters, asks Mission Council to arrange for further work to
be done, ecumenically and in consultation with our partner churches through the World
Alliance of Reformed Churches (WARC) and the Council for World Mission (CWM) where
appropriate and possible, on
a) the nature of Biblical authority for the life of the
church;
b) the relationship between the authority of General
Assembly and the other Councils of the Church;
c) the matter of ordination and human sexuality, including
the implications of ordaining ministers in committed homosexual relationships;
and also to consider ways in which the Church may be
assisted in reflection on the wider issues of human sexuality. To enable this process
Assembly asks Mission Council to establish a timetable for these reflective processes and
ensure appropriate representation on necessary consultative groups and working parties. |
Beginning the afternoon session,
Rosalind Goodfellow
introduced Resolution 18 (see above). The resolution, she told Assembly, dealt with
points raised during the process of consultation, calling for further work
ecumenically wherever possible since the issue affected churches of all traditions.
She stressed the wide range of responses, from outright rejection and outrage that the
issue was being discussed in the light of biblical injunctions, to those who felt that
proper study of the scriptures provided little of direct relevance to the current issue.
The problem, she argued, was that to reach agreement on the meaning of biblical
passages did not mean that people consequently agreed on the relevance of these passages
to the current debate. That was why the resolution called for further work on human
sexuality in general, since the Task Group had, necessarily, dealt only with
homosexuality. Ruth Clarke (former Moderator), in supporting
the resolution, spoke particularly of our understanding of biblical authority. We were a
Church which interprets the scriptures if we had not done so there would be
no women in the ministry. She listed a number of ways in which the authority of scripture
was mediated by the Church in different aspects of its life and worship and which could
further the process of reflection if the resolution were carried. Alan Wharton (Medway district) believed that
there was still confusion between homosexual orientation and homosexual practice. What
Christians do, he argued, was not simply a matter of personal choice. Jesus
welcomed all to come to him but having called them he asked them to turn away from what
was wrong. It was his conviction that homosexual practice was contrary to the way we have
been made and contrary to the will of God and we therefore needed more time to study and
reflect. John Bradbury (FURY Assembly) felt that the
issue of the minister as role-model (especially for the young) was paramount in many
peoples minds but it was not merely a question of role-models for the Christian
community but rather for the wider society. The Church could provide role-models of
homosexual people in loving stable relationships, showing that sexuality was about loving
in a God-like fashion. Walter Houston (Northern College) was in
favour of discussion on the nature of biblical authority but felt it would be unreasonable
to expect a wide degree of agreement. He did not accept that the division of opinion on
homosexuality was merely a reflection of our differences on the interpretation of
scripture. If it had been so, we would also have seen a major debate on issues like the
charging of interest on loans, which was also clearly condemned in scripture. The issue
was whether what the Bible says should define in detail how we behave, going down to
particular proof-texts. We should not be looking simply at how we defined biblical
authority but at our personal responses to the issue which lie at a much deeper level in
our personality than how we define biblical authority. Joanne Acty (Wirral)
felt that
attitudes had changed over 2000 years. In discussions among FURY members it had been felt
that biblical texts had to be placed alongside more liberal modern understandings.
For David Haslam (Staffordshire)
we
had not sufficiently focused on our call to be a united Church. We should be
able to encompass diversity within our ranks. God was big enough to encompass us all and
we should be a Church with open doors. Ann Jeffers (C & N London) wondered what
holy living meant. She felt that in the Bible it did not refer to the kind of
person but to the call of God. Secondly, for Christians all relationships should be judged
on the extent to which they reflected the faithfulness of God in Christ in forms like
mutual commitment, servanthood and compassion. Duncan Goldie (Gloucester)
felt that
the debate highlighted the need for theological work on relationships, commitment and
covenant in the light of our understanding of the scripture, and it was important that
work be done ecumenically. Paul Bedford (Coventry and Warwickshire)
recalled that a group in Coventry had looked at a previous church document on
homosexuality and had come out by a large majority against practising homosexuals being
ordained. However, he felt there were other issues to be addressed. Contraception had
demeaned the sexual act so that it had become not an intention to create life but rather
something engaged in for kicks. The media portrayed sex as a harmless thing to
do and people now co-habited casually. We should be speaking about the preciousness of
human sexuality and of the marriage bond: fidelity within marriage and chastity outside
marriage. When we had undertaken this costly self analysis we would have the right to
analyse the sexual practices of others.
Amendment Andrew Mills (C & N London) moved an
amendment to the original resolution calling for the involvement of partner churches in
the Council for World Mission and the World Alliance of Reformed Churches in any process
of study and reflection. The often-quoted motto of the Reformed tradition, Reformed
but always reforming was not aimed at the URC alone but at the world-wide
understanding of the Reformed movement. Mark Argent (Cambridge) argued that if
we were to wait for the entire Reformed family and CWM to decide, it would cause a
considerable delay in the process.
On the other hand Howard Klein (Cheshire) had
been impressed by the number of visitors from partner churches around the world who valued
their relationships with us. We were a partner with them but not a more equal partner and
so should consult with them. Coming from a partner
Johnson Jesudos (Milton Keynes) said that as
someone from a partner church (the Church of South India), working for a period with the
URC, he felt that this was an issue which reflected the individualistic society which
existed in Britain. Human sexuality might be an issue for the comfortable middle classes
but it was not at the forefront of the minds of those whose biggest struggle was to
survive. Brian ONeill (SE Manchester) argued
that we lived in such a different context to many of those whom it was proposed to consult
that any attempt to involve them would destroy the timetable for consultation. There were
sufficient churches with shared experience ecumenically and in America, Canada and Europe. Malcolm Clarke (Leicestershire), supporting
the amendment, reminded Assembly that the URC was trying to discern the will of God
not decide the will of God. We needed to listen and not to assume we had the
monopoly on what God was saying. Charles Croll (Ipswich & Colchester),
seconding the amendment, accepted that our culture was distinct from that of others but we
ought not to be driven by our culture.
Summing up, Andrew Mills
wondered whether we
were in danger of consulting only with those who would be likely to agree with us. What
kind of message would we give if we told people that they were not culturally relevant to
us surely we had much to learn from other cultures.
| The amendment was passed, as was a second amendment
calling on Mission Council to establish a definite timetable for the further process of
reflection on the issues. |
Amendment
Moving the third amendment, Malcolm Hanson
(Moderator, E Midlands) argued that the resolution did not make explicit
some of the work which needed to be done on specific issues arising out of the possible
ordination of practising homosexuals. He listed a number of areas for study including the
moral framework within which it would be envisaged that active homosexual relationships
were lived out. Was there a framework at all comparable to that accepted for those in
heterosexual relationships. If not, what discipline could be applied to homosexuals? Was
there any way of recognising when a casual relationship had become a committed
relationship? In legal terms, in what sense might a stable long-term homosexual
relationship be considered akin to marriage in particular, what would be the
obligation of the Church to such partners? Bill Mahood (Committee for Interfaith Relations)
pointed out that marriage law took centuries to develop and had only been fully
established for the last 300 years. Before that time common law marriage had been widely
practiced among those who did not need to define property rights. We were, he argued, only
at the beginning of dealing with a detailed framework for homosexual relationships. Rosalind Goodfellow, replying, welcomed the
amendment and said that on all the matters raised, work had been begun.
| The amendment was passed and after a brief final reply to
the debate on the whole of the resolution it was overwhelmingly passed. |
Resolution 19
| The Motion |
Assembly
a) recognises
1. that no candidate admitted for training can be assured
of ordination until a call is issued and accepted with the concurrence of a District
Council;
2. that all decisions on candidature and on the calling of
a particular minister involve seeking the guidance of the Holy Spirit and the weighing of
the strengths and weaknesses of the candidate.
b) declares concerning persons in a homosexual relationship
that, during the process of further reflection and discussion set out in the previous
resolution:
1. no local church or pastorate is to be constrained to
consider or accept such a person as their minister nor any District Council constrained to
concur with such a call;
2. Assembly will uphold a call to such an ordinand or
minister duly issued by a local church with the concurrence of the relevant District
Council(s) leading to ordination and / or induction;
3. Assembly will also uphold the refusal of a local church
to call as their minister a person who is in a homosexual relationship;
4. in view of these options, the fact of a homosexual
relationship shall not be the ground for rejecting a candidate for ministry during the
process of selection, assessment, entry to a college or course and ministerial training.
c) resolves that in the case of a disagreement wherein a
local church still wishes to call such a person when a District Council has refused
concurrence, the relevant Synod, through an appropriate committee or commission, shall
seek to secure agreement, failing which agreement the appeals procedure can be applied.
d) instructs the Ministries Committee to produce guidelines
for the application of this decision in the cases of non-stipendiary ministers.
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Introducing the third and most contentious of the three resolutions,
Rosalind Goodfellow stressed the provision that no
local church would be compelled to accept a practising homosexual but that if a church were
to issue such a call (and the District concurred), under the terms of the resolution
Assembly would uphold the call and that person would be a minister of the URC. Assembly
would equally uphold a refusal to issue such a call. On the question of training,
candidates would not be refused on the grounds of an active homosexual relationship as
such if they were otherwise considered suitable. The resolution also recognised the need
for provision to reconcile parties in the case of a dispute and the need for further work
on the provisions where a postholder was appointed rather than called.
She quoted Bishop John Austin Bakers description of human sexuality of whatever
type as tempestuous, fragile, vulnerable and potentially a source of cruelty, degradation
and selfishness. Light and darkness featured in both of both homo- and hetero- sexual
relationships. The prize for which we prayed was a unified Christian sexual ethic
applicable to all.
She stressed that under the terms of the resolution no homosexual would be accepted for
ordination unless all the required gifts were present nor anyone constrained to call such
a candidate. Equally, no one could be ordained unless they had been called and that call
had been confirmed.
The Debate
Opening the debate from the floor Bill Burgess
(Cheshire) asked why colleges were being disenfranchised by preventing them
from rejecting candidates. Surely it was colleges who should say whether someone was a fit
minister for the URC? Philip Morgan (former Moderator) had been
surprised to hear that Mission Council considered the current resolutions an adequate
framework for a debate on all the issues involved. No attempt had been made to present
sociological and theological issues or to discuss the implications for ecumenical
relationships. Just as importantly, Resolution 19 contradicted Resolution 18. Assembly had
just declared that it had not decided the issue but this resolution would give the
authority of the Assembly for the ordination of homosexuals. He accepted that the URC had
ordained practising homosexuals it could happen but that was not to say it ought
to happen. The ordination of practising homosexuals had taken place but the evidence
showed that the majority in the church wished that it were not so. The resolution was
pastorally insensitive in that any practising homosexual ordained could be in jeopardy if
Assembly decided differently in future. He asked Assembly to reject such a radical step in
order to enable a more positive and general approach to be made to the issue. John Johansen-Berg (former Moderator) felt
that there was a great need for clarity and compassion in the debate. We needed to be
quite clear on whether homosexuality was a sin to be forgiven, a sickness to be healed or
a natural state to be celebrated. He wondered whether the compassionate spirit in which
most were approaching the debate would survive the passing of the resolution. Our task was
to seek the mind of Christ, not what was considered politically correct. We also needed to
seek the mind of the church in the past and we must be sure that we had it right before we
made such a paradigm shift. He felt that much more debate was needed before such a
resolution could be accepted.
Fragile Unity Charles Martin (Sussex West) felt that the
provision for the ordination of practising homosexuals was in fact taking the very
decision that Assembly had declared that it was not ready to take. The issue was not one
of placing a barrier in peoples way but of bringing into ministry people who would
find it almost impossible to find a church and, in addition, damaging our fragile unity.
At this point Derek Gill (Norwich) moved that the motion be not put
but the Moderator responded that the whole Church had been through a two year process in
the expectation that we would make a definitive decision and he therefore ruled that it
would not be in order to curtail the debate. Nicholas Jones (SE Manchester) urged support
for the resolution because it struck a balance between acceptance and the precious
democracy within the church. Why should not homosexuals have the same rights as others to
ordination? Yet at the same time the rights of Church Meetings ought to be respected.
Jesus himself had preached tolerance, respect and a refusal to judge others. Simon Thomas (Southampton) argued that the
wording of the resolution prevented discussion of the real issues. No one wanted anyone to
be excluded from local churches but the issue was what happened to those who did come
what was God saying to them. Since previous resolutions had stated that we were not
ready to come to a mind, he did not see how he could then vote for the present resolution. Jean Jackson (Derbyshire) was particularly
upset by the provision to ordain practising homosexuals. We had, she said, to decide
whether our boundaries would be set by Gods word or by a deeply flawed secular
world. Sally Willett (Derbyshire) agreed that it was
illogical to say that we were not ready to make a decision and then to make that decision.
Passing the resolution would close the door to openness in future discussions since it
would be impossible and too painful to reverse ordination. Resolution 19, she believed, was
a decision and it was a decision too far. James Breslin (Northern) wondered why, when
Rosalind Goodfellow had been at such pains to emphasise that no District Council would be
constrained to concur with a call, the resolution itself described the process by which a
District Council would be constrained into ordaining a homosexual minister.
No despair Lesslie Newbigin (former Moderator) urged
rejection of the resolution on the grounds that it authorised something which scripture
did not authorise. He had, he said, read literature which claimed to validate a practising
homosexual life-style on biblical grounds but it seemed to be based on a different Bible
than the one he used. It was impossible to affirm that the Bible was the supreme authority
for faith and conduct and, at the same time, affirm that a practising homosexual
life-style was a valid model for the Church to follow. However the attempt to find out
what the Bible taught was not hopeless and we should not despair of receiving from
Gods word the guidance we needed. John Bradbury (FURY) felt that the resolution
said nothing new but rather put into writing the position at present. To say that this set
a precedent and was a decision was misleading the alternative resolution (to place
an embargo on the ordination of any practising homosexual) was equally a decision. If we
were to reject the resolution then we would have to look long and hard at the candidating
procedure because it had either gone badly wrong or we were trying to play God by deciding
that homosexuals could not be called. John Titlow (Medway) told Assembly that he
had thought the intention was to maintain the status quo but his District was on record as
not being prepared knowingly to call or recommend for training ministers whose practice
fell outside acceptable bounds, particularly anyone engaging in sexual activity outside
the bounds of faithful marriage between a man and woman. Richard Alford (Roding) opposed the
resolution because it was muddled and attempted to decide something on which we had not
made up our minds. Whatever the resolution said, churches might end up being forced to
accept homosexuals. There would be confusion where churches and districts differed. He
refuted the suggestion that the suggested alternative resolution would mean throwing
people out, since we did not pass retrospective legislation.
A new approach Lee Gammon (Canterbury) felt that the
acceptance of homosexuals for training would be good they would offer a new
approach and would also provide for the increasing number of homosexuals in society and in
the Church. Ian Bird (Bromley) opposed the resolution
because, while it intended to steer a middle path, it was uneven and biased. The provision
to uphold the ordination and call of a practising homosexual was a distinctly new step
while the protection to those who declined to call a candidate said nothing new at all,
since no one could compel a local church to call a minister.
Brian Clarke (C & N London) opposed the
ordination of practising homosexuals. He did, however, believe that it was in the
interests of all sides in the debate that we did not make a decision. The statistics from
the consultation reflected the fact that of those who had expressed a view, more were
against than for. While we might decide in favour in future, he believed that unity would
be easier if we were not under pressure because we wished to safeguard existing homosexual
ministers.
Hazel Catton (SE Manchester) regretted that
there had been no mention of those who had been damaged physically, socially and
spiritually by homosexual activity and who had come for healing and counselling. We needed
more time for reflection and if we passed the resolution we should be adding to the pain
and brokenness of the world.
Pauline Barnes (Croydon) had heard emotive
language about a change of policy but this resolution affirmed current practice and
prevented the church from making an important change. The result of voting against would
be to constrain the activity of the Holy Spirit by a sexual activity test for
candidates and existing ministers. Susan Rand (Equal Opportunities Committee)
agreed that without the provision that homosexuality would not be considered a bar for
training, all those involved in assessment procedure would be forced to ask intrusive
personal questions.
Enriching and challenging Brian ONeill (SE Manchester) argued
that as we sought guidance, the Bible was part of the process but not all of it. The
resolution reflected what was actually happening there had been gay nuns and clergy
etc for 2000 years and he hoped they might go on enriching and challenging the Church for
another 2000. Bill Young (Coventry and Warwickshire) said
that during assessment and training he had been interviewed by people he trusted and who
were trusted by the church. He would like them to go on trying to discern the will of God
in particular situations, not having Gods will decided for them by Assembly. Ruth Clarke (former Moderator) felt that we
were a very small church and that such a large debate automatically became a very personal
matter. She referred to one candidate in training who was living in a loving and stable
homosexual relationship. The fact was that 48 churches had said that they would consider a
homosexual minister in a loving and permanent relationship. Were we, she wondered, to miss
the chance a good minister? Sally Thomas (SW Manchester) felt that many
appeals for more time to discuss had come from those who had already made up their minds
and were expressing a homophobia which should not be reflected in any decision. She had
been divorced and was rejected by one group of churches on those grounds. If we were going
to be biblical, we had to be thorough going: if we were to be opposed to homosexuals would
we also be opposed to divorcees and ask people like her to leave?
Professional approval Norman Muir (St Albans) told Assembly that he
belonged to a Church with a high proportion of professional people and had discussed the
Assembly papers with some of them and found that they approved of the current resolution.
It was important, he felt that we treated people as individuals rather than placing them
into categories. Martin Camroux (NE Wiltshire) wondered how
long it would be before we were of one mind? He had heard the passions expressed and knew
the difficulties but we would delude ourselves if we thought we could enforce a moratorium
on ordaining homosexuals. We needed to find a way for the two points of view to live
together in one church and the present resolution allowed those who could not go along
with it to stand clear of its effects, recognising that we would not decide the main issue
in the next five or ten years. Alan Wharton (Medway)
however, did not see much allowance for the needs of people on the
‘other side’. The argument with respect to divorcees, he felt, was
unhelpful – no one who had been through the pain of divorce would
advocate the process, which was precisely what homosexuals were doing. Irene Tuley, (Sussex West) was another
speaker who felt that the current resolution conflicted with that just passed. The
resolution would put pressure on Mission Council and on District Councils and would add to
the pressures on those who might subsequently find they could not continue in ministry.
She felt that the ways of the world had crept into the Church but that God had called us
to be different from the world. Ministers were called on to give an example and many were
concerned at the influence of practising homosexuals as ministers and leaders of churches.
A national Church? Eddie Boone (Sefton) said that it was good to
be part of a debate which was sensitive, orderly and clear. Nevertheless we had to come to
a conclusion and passing the current resolution would harm our national identity as a
Church. If the ordination of practising homosexuals was to depend solely on the decisions
of local churches we would no longer be a national Church. Mark Argent (Cambridge) found that of the
first ten names of ministers which came into his head, five were homosexual. He argued
that there was nothing in Reformed theology which would allow us to say someone who could
be a member of a church could not, in principle, also be a minister. The issue was one of
calling. We were voting on whether someone who was homosexual and felt called could answer
that call within the URC or whether they had to go elsewhere. We were also voting on
whether a church which wished to call a particular minister would be prevented from doing
so. Alison Evans (Bristol) believed that the
resolution would allow candidates to be honest and not to hide parts of themselves, so
allowing churches to make a proper judgement on them. Simon Ellis (Sussex E) felt that it was clear
from the previous resolution that we did not have an adequate framework on which to judge
homosexual relationships at present. For that reason it would be reckless to allow the
ordination of practising homosexuals on the basis of local decisions. Different District
Councils would act in totally contradictory ways and we would inevitably face the farcical
situation where a minister might be accepted in one District, whereas in another he or she
would be disciplined. The divisive issue was not homosexuality, or categorising people, or
homophobia: the key question was whether self-declared practising homosexuals could be
ordained. That was clearly a new step. If we did not reject the resolution we would not
only threaten the unity of the URCs ministry but also undermine our understanding of
the nature of faithful committed relationships.
Apples and pears Kim Fabricius (W Wales) wanted to ask what
was being condemned in the Bible and how relevant it was with the current debate. The
paradigm being condemned by Paul was something that was self-willed homosexual
activity chosen by people who were inherently heterosexual and therefore promiscuous.
Today we looked for recognition of a homosexual orientation which was given, not
self-willed. Pauls paradigm was also that of the relationship of an older to a
younger man and therefore open to exploitation. The paradigm for which we sought approval
for was for relationships which were mutual and supportive. Pauls paradigm was one
of a temporary relationship, even a serial relationship, out of which a young person would
grow. We would affirm a relationship which, in intention, was lifelong, caring and
committed. In other words, Paul condemned apples, while we were talking about pears. Joanne Acty (Wirral) wished to correct any
tendency to identify homosexuality and the abuse of children the difference was
that children did not consent to abuse. In addition, young people were not as gullible as
to choose to become homosexual just because they knew someone who was. They had minds of
their own and made up their own minds. In todays very diverse society it was
important to teach children to look at love in all its aspects.
Reasoned arguments? Simon Copley (E Wales) referred to those who
characterised the current resolution as affirming the status quo. He had been under the
illusion that the status quo was that the Church took scripture to be its supreme
authority. It was true that we were in a position where practising homosexuals were
ordained but many felt that to be wrong. The current resolution changed the situation
because it gave approval to that policy. Where, he wondered, were the reasoned
arguments from scripture to permit this? Did we now affirm loving
relationships rather than marriage? God had made us male and female, implying that
that was the proper expression of our sexuality. David Coleman (N Wales) begged Assembly to
support the resolution or he would have to go back to members of the churches he served
saying that Assembly did not trust them to be channels of the Holy Spirit when next they
came to call a minister. Martin Hazell (Lea Valley) introduced himself
as a well known homosexual, self-declared but no longer practising I am
almost perfect. Twenty years ago when he had candidated for the ministry the
District had seen that he was a gay man, despite the fact that he had been pretending to
be straight, and passed him for training. Since then he had completed thirteen years of
ministry and was now president of the District. He urged Assembly to support the
resolution because it represented the reality of the situation: it did not go as far as he
would wish but it was a start.
Summing up
There was general laughter when the Moderator invited
Rosalind
Goodfellow to reply to the debate as representatives acknowledged
the virtual impossibility of doing justice to the many and varied points which had been
made. Wisely, she limited herself to one or two general points. The Task Group on Human
Sexuality had done what Assembly had asked and the result was before Assembly. It was true
that we needed more time but the debate might go on for years and there were people who
needed some kind of indication now. Several people, she noted, had referred to the
status quo but had used the phrase in entirely different senses. Some had
understood the status quo to be no homosexuals and some had taken the status
quo to be that we already had ministers who were homosexuals. The Task Group and
Mission Council wished to see the present position of homosexual ministers protected and
regularised and recognised that there were different procedures in different Districts and
Provinces.
She regretted the tendency on occasion for some to fall into a slight confusion between
homosexuality and paedophilia this was a very dangerous error, since paedophilia
affected heterosexuals as much as homosexuals. She also informed Assembly that, having
taken legal advice, it had been pointed out that, despite the statement in the Assembly
Reports that it was not illegal to discriminate against a person on the grounds of
sexuality, there was now a case before the European Court of Justice on the question of
the legality of discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
She had noted that those who had spoken for and against the resolution had been roughly
equal in numbers but she asked Assembly on behalf of the Task Group and the Mission
Council to support what was before them.
Resolution 19 Result
After an extended silence members of the Assembly said the Grace to one another and
proceeded to a secret ballot; they then adjourned for their evening meal. When they
returned at 7.00 pm the result was announced as follows:
| 523 voting papers had been
submitted, of which eight were spoiled. There had been two abstentions.
There had been 324 votes for the resolution and 189 against. |
After announcing the result the Moderator affirmed the message of the resolution. There
would be no coercion and no pressure would be put on local churches or District Councils
as the Church sought to implement the decision. Any implementation should take place in
the spirit of the debate, which had been very special. The Holy Spirit, he reminded
Assembly, did not go away now that the debate was over. Our prayer was that the Spirit
would be with us in affirming our unity and affirming the diversity of views which had
been so gently expressed.
Dissent
The Revd Andrew Mills (C&N London) was
granted permission to register his dissent from the decision taken and was followed in a
dignified fashion by 28 others, a number visibly distressed and most expressing their
regret. (A number of other members of Assembly later registered their dissent in writing,
the eventual total being 68.)
Finally, the Moderator expressed the gratitude of Assembly to the Task Group for their
work on the Churchs behalf. They had, he said, displayed energy, wisdom and patient
insight and had acted throughout in a tremendous spirit of responsibility.
Assembly confirmed his sentiments with prolonged applause.
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